Oh, work. You house me, feed me, and then you drive me insane.
I apologize for the lack of updates, and I apologize for the broken promise. But I’ve simply been way too busy over the past few days, and I’ve not had the time do make good on either. But I have some free time today, so hopefully that will make up for it.
First, the fruits of your labor :
You folks worked really hard on that, if what filled up my comments section was any indication, and for that I thank you. I thought about this today, and I came to the conclusion that I would never be able to solve something like that on my own. How do you people do it? I have no idea, and I have no idea why you’re all so interested in helping me, but I am thankful. Again, thank you!
Anyway, on to the reply, addressed to the mysterious (and slightly obnoxious?) Aidoneus:
Thank you for your information.
Yes, I am “serious,” but I don’t know why I should have to do anything to be “rewarded.” Why are you making this so hard!? But whatever. On to the good stuff.
I remember hearing about Berne’s “death,” but I didn’t understand the significance. The media were treating him like the next Einstein, but I had never heard of him, personally. But to know that he played a part in that Sri Lanka thing with Mittlewerk, then did something to my brother, and is now on the loose after faking his death, simultaneously freaks me out and pisses me off. Why are geniuses sometimes evil? You’d think they’d be more logical than that.
And moving on: my brother. While it’s great that you have an “inside man” and whatnot, this is what’s most important to me: screw the intrigue, screw the secrets. My brother is alive! And as much as I want to track you down and kick you in the face for keeping this from me, Sir Aidoneus, I am just escstatic to know. Thank you, but screw you at the same time.
But I know this is too early to be celebrating. If I can trust Aidoneus, then my brother is safe, but not for long. And while I would usually be skeptical and hesitant, I feel as though I have no other choice. So I will play his game, as long as he is willing to play mine in return.
Here’s all I could find on St. Ignace:
It’s not much, obviously, but it’s all I have. And since I gave you something, Aidoneus, I expect something in return. So pay up!
But moving on: that phone call I posted yesterday. I knew there was something more to it than met the eye (ear?), and again, I thank you all for dissecting it. While what it contained was rather empty, I’m sure it must have some significance. Who would take the time to inform me of that if it had none?
And that’s all I have to say for now. Thanks for being so patient.

May 30, 2009 at 11:12 pm |
No luck finding an Attachment C??
May 30, 2009 at 11:37 pm |
Okay Elliott. LinkedIn led us to Niel Heisenberg’s profile. On this profile he linked his personal website, which contains a blog. According to a comment on his most recent blog, he is missing too. His daughter posted a comment asking him to come home. I have replied to her comment in hopes of receiving more information from her.
May 30, 2009 at 11:38 pm |
I’m wondering if 8th Spoke is the competitors Niel talks about. They were taking ground samples at St. Ignace, which appears to be the Location G referred to in the I. Theta letter. Don’t know what that means…yet…
May 30, 2009 at 11:53 pm |
Do you think there is anything significant in niels website? there are some family names but i guess sara is best chance of contact through the comments as you said. She aint on twitter anyway
May 30, 2009 at 11:56 pm |
Since Niel attended the university of michigan he may have a connection with 8th spoke
May 31, 2009 at 12:16 am |
You know, I saw that, just never connected it. If 8th Spoke are the competitors Niel and Thomas Levi speak of, then maybe Niel was an 8th spoke insider? Or perhaps he took the information he discovered at MSU and gave it to Widmore Industries. If so, he’s definitely in trouble.
The other possibility, 8th spoke is working with Widmore. But that doesn’t seem likely to me as Hanso and Widmore are competing companies aren’t they?
May 31, 2009 at 12:20 am |
FlyingEngine mentioned that maybe Niel’s Random page is some sort of a clue, a message hidden within…sounds plausible.
May 31, 2009 at 12:24 am |
hanso and widmore are working together now :www.thewidmoregroup.com
May 31, 2009 at 12:26 am |
Yea i guess that could be true. Maybe there is something there that can lead us to a url within niel’s website
May 31, 2009 at 12:34 am |
And: http://nielheisenberg.livejournal.com/
May 31, 2009 at 12:35 am |
http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=47036348&authToken=QKqs&authType=NAME_SEARCH&locale=en_US&srchindex=1&pvs=ps&goback=%2Epsr_*1_*1_Niel_Heisenberg_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_Y_us_19148_*1_*1_*2_*2_*2_Y_Y_*1_Relevance
May 31, 2009 at 12:35 am |
Let me try that again:
http://tr.im/mVof
May 31, 2009 at 12:41 am |
Neil’s Random page is everything he likes A-Z (obviously) and he mentions his son’s name, John, his daughter’s name, Sara, and his mother’s name, Mary. But his list is missing the letter L and he never mentions his wife’s name, Loraine.
May 31, 2009 at 12:41 am |
He even mentions is dog’s name, Ivy.
May 31, 2009 at 12:44 am |
Actually his wife’s name is Loretta. Sorry = )
May 31, 2009 at 12:42 am |
Arrgh, Twitter booted me just as we were getting somewhere. Anyway, we figured out (or Env420 did) that the other point on the map is in the Azores. So that must be where this “resonance” is emanating from. The document also mentions that a closer “location F” was considered first. Since the Azores are off the N. African coast, could location F have been in Tunisia?
May 31, 2009 at 12:58 am |
There are recently active volcanoes in the Azores. Does anyone remember a volcano being mentioned early in the game, or was that by one of the gamejackers?
BTW, I think that Heisenberg’s Italian heritage might mean something. It is mentioned a lot–his education, trips to Rome with his wife etc–and the mention of Audrey Hepburn movies made me think of Roman Holiday. So is that where he went?
May 31, 2009 at 1:16 am |
The first point of course is St. Ignace, by Lake Michigan, 3-400 KM north of Ann Arbor. So how are these two places connected, and what is this resonnance? How can it be exploited or even measured from a point thousands of miles away? We’re told that at location G it will take 27 days to “stabilize the fluctuations”, which would apparently only take 12 days at location F (possibly Tunisia). So what makes him recommend G anyway, even at a much higher cost?
From Wikipedia:
“In quantum physics, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that certain pairs of physical properties, like position and momentum, cannot both be known to arbitrary precision. That is, the more precisely one property is known, the less precisely the other can be known.”
A final stray thought: Eileithyia (Niel’s boat) is a Roman goddess of childbirth, much like Tawaret (the statue on the island) in Egyptian culture. Does Heisenberg’s research have anything to do with fertility?
May 31, 2009 at 12:47 am |
I never noticed the letter L was missing, that’s gotta mean something!
May 31, 2009 at 12:47 am |
I didn’t notice until, like, the fourth time I looked at it. Lol.
May 31, 2009 at 12:52 am
Well done!
May 31, 2009 at 12:54 am
Good finding! That must mean something!
May 31, 2009 at 12:52 am |
Well spotted kalyn. I tried urls to do with loretta but no luck
May 31, 2009 at 1:01 am |
Elliott, don’t know if you saw, but Neil might be missing too. His daughter posted a comment to his blog, wondering where he is. it been a few weeks….
May 31, 2009 at 1:03 am |
alright, i may be behind, and for that im sorry. moving on. at thewidmoregroup.com there is a link to the hanso foundation’s website, which is a statement from Alvar Hanso which states some of his regrets, things he learned, and his aim to reorganize the foundation to be more transparent. the two interesting things about it are these.
1-at the bottom, there are a series of characters that my computer can’t make out but are there
2-in the source code, there is a link to rachelblake.com Rachel Blake is mentioned in the letter. can’t figure out anything past this
May 31, 2009 at 1:08 am |
I checked out these characters before. It seemed to me that these are logos or something of the sort, for the companies listed at the very bottom of the letter.
May 31, 2009 at 1:04 am |
It looks like Niel has spent a lot of time in Italy. Maybe he has a connection to Valenzetti?
May 31, 2009 at 1:22 am |
Pygmalion, Niel’s favorite play, is another name for Adonis…interesting eh?
May 31, 2009 at 1:32 am |
anyone know what fish this is??
http://nielheisenberg.fh50.com/images/loretta.gif
i get it when searchin urls wit loretta
May 31, 2009 at 1:39 am |
red herring
May 31, 2009 at 1:40 am |
That, my friend, is the first picture you get on google when you look up “Red Herring.” XD
May 31, 2009 at 1:44 am
Okay, so is Loretta irrelevant?
May 31, 2009 at 1:46 am
Darn. Just when I thought I had something. Oh, well.
May 31, 2009 at 1:57 am
Still doesn’t mean that the missing L isn’t important.
May 31, 2009 at 2:00 am |
Alright, I think we need to try some more URLs. I tried a lot of mythology ones since those seem to be recurring themes in his random thing and some Lost words but got nothin. Fishing and sailing seem to be recurring themes in his blog though so does anyone know any words that have to do with those?
Oh and is this reminding anyone of the Beast?
http://familychan.cloudmakers.org/evanchanpage.html
Missing guy? Check.
Website for that guy with sailing-related stuff? Check.
Trying to find his “personal” page with clues from his site? Check.
Could be ripoff, could be homage, could be coincidence..but I think there’s something on the site we need to use as a URL to find his personal page.
May 31, 2009 at 2:17 am |
Been refreshing Niel’s LJ, just noticed sara replied to the comments
http://nielheisenberg.livejournal.com/1918.html?view=894#t894
could be a faker though since it’s anonymous
May 31, 2009 at 2:33 am |
There may be a url that contains these worries sara mentions
May 31, 2009 at 3:01 am |
I think the url is going to be hidden in another part of the website…at least that’s our experience so far right?
May 31, 2009 at 3:09 am |
Sara Heisenberg says that her father’s list of worries may still be on the website, but under a different title. She suggests trying different variations of her father’s three favorite things…Mediterranean mythology, fishing and sailing.
May 31, 2009 at 3:35 am |
Thought I’d try some sea gods:
* Poseidon
* Oceanus
* Ceto
* Nereus
* Glaucus
* Thetis
* Amphitrite
* Tethys
* Triton
* Ophion
* Proteus
* Phorcys
* Pontus
* Oceanids
* Nereids
* Naiads
None of them worked. Grr.
May 31, 2009 at 3:52 am |
did you try them as urls on the new blog?
with which extension? .jpg .gif .html ???
May 31, 2009 at 11:27 am |
Tried most of these too as .html, since what we’re looking for is a list so it’s probably a document…haven’t tried any .jpgs or .gifs.
May 31, 2009 at 9:07 am |
[...] beginning to worry that maybe Elliott has gone the way of his brother and disappeared. But a new blog entry last night put over worries to rest and us firmly back in the [...]
May 31, 2009 at 9:56 am |
Have also been trying lots of possible .htm URLS using names and information from the blog but found nothing yet…
Have also emailed Niel in the hope that maybe he is in hiding and not truely missing and able to make contact.
Good luck everyone!
May 31, 2009 at 10:36 am |
some ideas:
- it’s not the firts time we’ve been seeing some Alice’stuff: remember the white rabbit….( my name is Alice, so i noticed..)
- the volcano is a reference Arielle Rieux twitters me few days ago: (keep a eye on the volcano) why did she say volcano? in fact i both speak french and spanish, but i think she shouldn’t know that!)
-Niel spend a lot in Italia: he must speak italian and LATIN !!!!!
- Mozart and the B# key: so much too say….
-seems that the widmore are losing lots of colaborators (but they like to travel a dangerous way: Henri in baloon, now Niel on a boat…., it’s strange maybe Niel could have meet Desmond on a race………
May 31, 2009 at 2:04 pm |
Airelle Rieux is not part of the WISH? arg…if anything, she’s just a player.
June 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm
i’m still unsure about what role Arielle is going to play in the future of the game but i’m kinda hopeful. for now she’s a random character, but i’m following her. she sent me a DM the other day with a bunch of reading recommendations. her style isn’t the same as the other players’, but maybe that’s the idea?
she tweets a lot and seems committed to sending people clues. and she has that sekhmet avatar and knows about some of the game’s themes and clues before they’re revealed to us.
May 31, 2009 at 12:27 pm |
having no joy with URLs based on sea gods, locations of shrines to the gods, children of the gods, etc.. etc
tried words associated with alice in wonderland-again no joy
stumped
May 31, 2009 at 3:12 pm |
tried taking all the capital letters from the random pages (the ones with the ABC stuff) in case there was a code hidden in there
I cant find anything in there maybe you guyz can
TISABCAAWIIBMPCNICESPDIPEME FMJSKGBINAHIIJKFATMMNJCOSOOMEPQDOSCRMMSTRUKLGIVUTPWIMXOKIYZT
May 31, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
Niel’s list of worries has been found by anne_wintermute. http://bit.ly/1c6zg3. There is a link that leads to the red herring picture and another that leads to a message Niel received from r33pi ch33p (reepicheep?):
“they’re coming for you, & if i was you i’d run
you know something about them
but i know something about you too
mean anything to you?
‘course it does.”
It was sent to him on the morning of May 8.
May 31, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
Can we post yet?
May 31, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
Okay, for some reason it’s not letting me post the link. So, the word were we all needing was pisces. Wonder why I can’t post with a link…
May 31, 2009 at 5:41 pm |
I think it’s reading it as spam for some reason
May 31, 2009 at 6:03 pm |
I noticed that. Hmm…
May 31, 2009 at 10:51 pm |
Anne_Wintermute ::
I just got a reply from r33pich33p!:
“i know more than him,
& he’s a scientist.
but where’d he go? hopefully he ran like i told him to
47 57 66 56 27 e6 27 86 56 96 36 56 56 e6 86 56 16 36 37 37 96 97 36 f6 86 47 47
”
email to him:
“Hello Mr. R33pich33p:
I’m looking for Niel Heisenberg, it seems he disappeared recently and his family is quite worried about him.
I know you wrote to him recently warning him about his involvement with the I theta project, do you know anything else about that project that might explain why he’s missing?
I hope you do,
May 31, 2009 at 11:16 pm |
if you reverse each pair of numbers/letters (ex. 47 – 74, …, e6 – 6e, …)
you get:
tufernrhei6eenheacssiycohtt
May 31, 2009 at 11:30 pm
where did you get those letters from?
May 31, 2009 at 11:32 pm
nevermind…slow mind today. I figured it out.
May 31, 2009 at 11:33 pm
i translated the “reversed” numbers from HEX
and sorry, there is a mistake.. instead of “6″ it should be “c”
tufernrheiceenheacssiycohtt
dont know if this is an anagram yet..
May 31, 2009 at 11:35 pm |
numbers reversed and then translated with hex gives you:
tthocyisscaehneeciehrnrefut
i’m beetting there’s some words in there. anyone have any ideas?
May 31, 2009 at 11:52 pm |
Some words I see in there..
the
science
i theta
search
research
of
anti
chain
theocracy
technocracy
institute
refute
Will post if i see anything else
June 1, 2009 at 12:01 am |
co.cc is also there…wonder if it’s another website??
June 1, 2009 at 12:51 am |
tufernrheiceenheacssiycohtt = further enhance society ethics
June 1, 2009 at 4:49 am |
Hi all – just woke up and checked my email and I got a reply from r33pich33p too – just thought I’d post it here, even though we’ve already got the numbers:
“don’t know about nathan, but i know about niel.
where is he? even if i knew i’d never tell
47 57 66 56 27 e6 27 86 56 96 36 56 56 e6 86 56 16 36 37 37 96 97 36 f6 86 47 47
“
July 2, 2009 at 5:08 pm |
We’re all candidates.